Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/09/1999 03:31 PM Senate STA

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                SJR  8-FAIR AND ACCURATE CENSUS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARK HODGINS, legislative aide to Chairman Ward, sponsor of SJR 8,                                                              
explained the measure as follows.  SJR 8 urges Congress and the                                                                 
Bureau of the Census to conduct the year 2000 census consistent                                                                 
with the ruling in the Department of Commerce v. United States                                                                  
House, and with the Constitution of the United States.  The Bureau                                                              
of the Census plans on using random sampling techniques or other                                                                
statistical methods instead of an actual physical headcount of the                                                              
population.  A random sampling technique will dilute and violate                                                                
the one person/one vote legal protection, and could expose the                                                                  
State to protracted and costly litigation, resulting in a court                                                                 
ruling invalidating the redistricting plan.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PHILLIPS asked if a random sampling technique has been used                                                             
in any previous census.  MR. HODGINS said it has.  He explained the                                                             
case he previously referred to, Department of Commerce v. United                                                                
States House, was about the use of a random sampling technique.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PHILLIPS asked when that occurred.  MR. HODGINS was unsure                                                              
but stated in that case, the court determined the random sampling                                                               
technique used was acceptable, however the current concern is that                                                              
a random sampling technique could prompt the Legislature to                                                                     
artificially change district boundaries based on statistics, rather                                                             
than a headcount, during the reapportionment process.  He stated                                                                
ten moose could be spotted in one square mile in Alaska, however                                                                
one cannot assume that number is representative of thousands of                                                                 
square miles.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked if Alaska's congressional delegation favors                                                                
this legislation.  MR. HODGINS said it does.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD stated this issue is not partisan, and that most                                                                  
people do not favor the random sampling technique.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS MILLER, Research and Analysis Section of the Department of                                                                
Labor (DOL), stated DOL has taken no position on SJR 8, but he                                                                  
asked the committee to consider the following information.  A                                                                   
pending legal decision may make this issue moot.  A group out of                                                                
Alabama is likely to sue the Census Bureau to force it to do the                                                                
same thing for state census information as it does for the                                                                      
national census.  DOL, as the census liaison, does not know the                                                                 
details of the statistical sampling process the Census Bureau plans                                                             
to use for the year 2000.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 149                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked Mr. Miller if he was suggesting the Legislature                                                             
introduce an accompanying bill containing precise language as to                                                                
how a census count should be conducted.  MR. MILLER replied he                                                                  
would prefer to wait to see what the Census Bureau proposes.  The                                                               
1990 census process began with a statistical quality control check                                                              
conducted on a regional level across the country.  The regional                                                                 
statistics were then applied to each state.  DOL does not believe                                                               
that method improved the numbers for Alaska.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if DOL has been notified by the Census Bureau                                                               
that Alaska is being used as a test site, in which an ongoing                                                                   
population count would occur.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER stated at one point, Anchorage was going to be a test                                                                
site, but that is no longer the case. He explained the Census                                                                   
Bureau is developing a new process in which it will collect data                                                                
over an eight-year period.  By the eighth year, the statistics will                                                             
be abundant enough to provide detailed data on small geographic                                                                 
areas.  That process might be used in the 2010 census, but a lot of                                                             
testing still needs to be done.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN WARD asked if the entire State of Alaska has been chosen                                                               
as a test site for that ongoing procedure.  MR. MILLER replied the                                                              
program will be applied nationwide, and it is not a test per se.                                                                
The program will occur simultaneously with the 2000 census, and the                                                             
sample will be used as a base for comparison.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 206                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked if out-of-state military members are counted                                                                
using a statistical sampling method.  MR. MILLER replied the Census                                                             
Bureau contracted to do a head count of out-of-state military                                                                   
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked if enumerators from other states would go to                                                                
bases overseas and in the lower 48.  MR. MILLER said that was his                                                               
understanding, however he would verify that information.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked about DOL's experience with census population                                                               
counts in areas of the state in which the population is very                                                                    
mobile, and whether that experience has led DOL to believe that                                                                 
statistical sampling can provide an accurate count.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 229                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER said DOL is working closely with the Census Bureau to                                                                
ensure the Census Bureau has good information about where housing                                                               
units are located.  The census in Alaska will be done in two ways.                                                              
In urban areas, surveys will be mailed to residents and census                                                                  
workers will go door-to-door.  In rural Alaska, the Bureau will                                                                 
contract with local people to go door-to-door to collect the                                                                    
information.  Because "break-up" occurs when the census will be                                                                 
taken, the door-to-door method will be used to count residents of                                                               
rural areas of Alaska, and will take longer.  DOL is fairly                                                                     
confident that  the Census Bureau is "counting noses" in an                                                                     
efficient manner.  Post-enumeration surveys are conducted after the                                                             
census is complete.  A 1995 post-enumeration survey was a secondary                                                             
survey used for statistical purposes.  It was also used as a                                                                    
quality control check on the 1990 census.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being no further discussion, SENATOR PHILLIPS moved SJR 8 out                                                             
of committee with individual recommendations.  SENATOR ELTON                                                                    
objected.  The motion carried with Senators Phillips, Green,                                                                    
Wilken, and Ward voting "yea," and Senator Elton voting "nay."                                                                  

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